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rubio and ryan. governor jindal and scott wal walker. walker. christie out of guarn teen and jeb and the up and coming senators like kelly ayotte. ted cruz from texas. >> bret: susana martinez. >> exactly. a loa lot -- long and inspiring list of the few leaders with ide log call energy and intellectual depth. economassuming our economy is sl around is going to mark an open seat. since 5953. with -- 1953, one party held the white house for two term, they have been kicked out. the one exception is reagan reagan-bush. calendar of history is you get two terms. the other guy will come in. this is a prize and it will bring out, i think, the best young leaders. >> bret: right now, people are tired of the election. but about the messaging and from the speeches did you hear a framing of a new conservative message? >> yes. in a sense the return to old conservative message. but i expect to hear reform conservative a bit in the coming years. what sets apart the people that charles mentioned, particularly these two fellows is the fact that they came to washi
rubio and ryan. governor jindal and scott wal walker. walker. christie out of guarn teen and jeb and the up and coming senators like kelly ayotte. ted cruz from texas. >> bret: susana martinez. >> exactly. a loa lot -- long and inspiring list of the few leaders with ide log call energy and intellectual depth. economassuming our economy is sl around is going to mark an open seat. since 5953. with -- 1953, one party held the white house for two term, they have been kicked out. the one...
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marco rubio of florida was asked about the question of the best leadership in washington, d.c. instead of an official pop li politician, he named robert griffin iii. morris said that mitt romney would win in a landslide with 325 electoral votes. he also made the prediction that president obama might pull out of the race. >>> a new "washington post"/abc news poll said that hillary clinton would be approved for president obama. and another path said that michelle obama would do well. right now she leads republican senator mark kirk of illinois 51-40%. >>> so a new congressional report shows wasteful spending of tax money that was intended for counter-terrorism purposes, some of the worst examples, the homeland security department paid for a hog catcher in texas. a fish tank and an underwater robot in a midwest city with no major rivers or lakes nearby. former republican senator allen simpson has a message, use the tools to sign up people for the can kicks back campaign to avoid the fiscal cliff and cut the national debt. the 81-year-old simpson went "gangnam style" to make his po
marco rubio of florida was asked about the question of the best leadership in washington, d.c. instead of an official pop li politician, he named robert griffin iii. morris said that mitt romney would win in a landslide with 325 electoral votes. he also made the prediction that president obama might pull out of the race. >>> a new "washington post"/abc news poll said that hillary clinton would be approved for president obama. and another path said that michelle obama would do...
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rubio has already gone to iowa. they seem to be following the romney model of, you start the minute the election is over. >> yeah. you know what? they got a big problem. and you were just talking about it. you take republican decent republicans, lamar alexander, sacks by chambliss, a member of the gang of six, who is the third? lindsey graham who is often rational when not talking about foreign policy. what do all three of them have in common in they'll get tea party challenges in 2014. and you know, i read the speeches that rubio and paul ryan gave tonight and they were wonderful about the need to reex out to the poor and the afflicted. and so on. but every republican who votes for any kind of revenue increase in these coming, in these coming votes, there will be facing a tea party challenge. and i suspect that that party is going to have to come to terms with that. it may take a couple more cycles to do it. >>> have the tea party challenge would not even let these guys loose to vote for the american disabilities a
rubio has already gone to iowa. they seem to be following the romney model of, you start the minute the election is over. >> yeah. you know what? they got a big problem. and you were just talking about it. you take republican decent republicans, lamar alexander, sacks by chambliss, a member of the gang of six, who is the third? lindsey graham who is often rational when not talking about foreign policy. what do all three of them have in common in they'll get tea party challenges in 2014....
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this is the first time senator rubio had been asked about it since then. and now he has a very clear and very sensible answer. and that there's two answers. a scientific answer, the one we know, at least 4.5 billion years, but also a theological answer. and he went on to say that we should have the freedom to teach our children both the science and the theology. it's a clear, good answer. i asked him some other tough questions. i asked him when life begins. i asked him in homosexuality is a sin. i asked him about his church. he goes to both the catholic church in florida and his wife and children worship at a n nondenominational. >> when did he say life begins? >> he said life begins at conce conception. and he went on to not back away at all from religious teachings. he said i'm a roman catholic, and i agree totally with the teaching authority of the church. the people in the audience came up to me afterwards. and they said that what they liked about him was that he didn't dodge, weave. he was pretty declarative about these issues, which is going to play
this is the first time senator rubio had been asked about it since then. and now he has a very clear and very sensible answer. and that there's two answers. a scientific answer, the one we know, at least 4.5 billion years, but also a theological answer. and he went on to say that we should have the freedom to teach our children both the science and the theology. it's a clear, good answer. i asked him some other tough questions. i asked him when life begins. i asked him in homosexuality is a...
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media talk to a lot of new republicans, the jeb hencerlings and paul ryan and bobby jindal and marco rubio, a lot of strong, younger voices in the party i would like to see more on. i turn on the tv and see newt gingrich back on tv. he hasn't been a republican leader in about 16 years. that's a long time. we need to shift and hear some of the newer voices in the party. >> i have to say just because you have some gray hair doesn't mean you can say those things. this isn't just about being inappropriate. >> i agree, kiki. >> sometimes the truth is inappropriate. these are just dead wrong. they're promoting myths and unfactual statements and you just can't let that go. whether you're young or old, you know better than that and you shouldn't be doing it. >> i agree. i think there are smart ways to talk about a lot of these issues. i think we're going to get that opportunity and it's going to be a test for the party for how we talk about things like immigration reform. if we change how we talk about and think about the immigrant community in this country, that's going to make -- i think that's
media talk to a lot of new republicans, the jeb hencerlings and paul ryan and bobby jindal and marco rubio, a lot of strong, younger voices in the party i would like to see more on. i turn on the tv and see newt gingrich back on tv. he hasn't been a republican leader in about 16 years. that's a long time. we need to shift and hear some of the newer voices in the party. >> i have to say just because you have some gray hair doesn't mean you can say those things. this isn't just about being...
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marco rubio, pat toomey. very conservative, anti-tax, anti-government purists in the mold of jim demint. however, he also backed in republican primaries a number of republican candidates who simply were not electable according to the republican establishment and the establishment was right. for example, remember christine o'donnell, i'm not a witch, from delaware. ken buck of colorado. and others. so those are some of the reasons why he definitely has ruffled many a-feather with the party leaders and i have to tell you first thing i saw when the senate republican leader mitch mcconnell released a statement today was making the point that demint had, quote, uncompromising service. didn't have to read between the lines too much to see there's a backhanded compliment. >> dana, what about bigger picture here and talking about the republican party aenl just talking about folks like ryan and rubio, let's say, part of maybe the next generation republicans. do you think that demint's brand of republicanism is falling
marco rubio, pat toomey. very conservative, anti-tax, anti-government purists in the mold of jim demint. however, he also backed in republican primaries a number of republican candidates who simply were not electable according to the republican establishment and the establishment was right. for example, remember christine o'donnell, i'm not a witch, from delaware. ken buck of colorado. and others. so those are some of the reasons why he definitely has ruffled many a-feather with the party...
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>> from my reporting, it's clear that rubio wants it and wants it badly. and i think wanting it matters when running for president. if you want it badly, you'll do all that stuff. we understand from folks talking to paul ryan, he doesn't want it as badly and isn't sure he wants to run. for the next two years, he's front and center in the fiscal debate. is he going to be the leader of resistance among conservatives or part of the solution? and i don't think he's made a decision yet. early signals are he's not where john boehner and others are as far as his openness to certain compromises, but at the end of the day, he could be there and i think that will be a big indication of what he wants to do and where he goes. >> and paul ryan signed on to the boehner plan yesterday. jim vandehei, "behind the curtain" is the new series. thanks so much. >> thanks, willie. appreciate it. >>> up next, rookie of the year candidate rg3 and the washington redskins look to close the gap in the nfc east on the new york giants. mike barnicle going to join us next. [ knock on do
>> from my reporting, it's clear that rubio wants it and wants it badly. and i think wanting it matters when running for president. if you want it badly, you'll do all that stuff. we understand from folks talking to paul ryan, he doesn't want it as badly and isn't sure he wants to run. for the next two years, he's front and center in the fiscal debate. is he going to be the leader of resistance among conservatives or part of the solution? and i don't think he's made a decision yet. early...
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bill o'reilly talked to marco rubio a star on the republican side. he said 85 billion a year if rates go up to 39 percent. it is nothing but symbolic, listen. >> my parents worked in the service industry and beaut a house. we always had more than we needed thank god and thank this country. it is only going to be possible in the future if we have limited government and free enterprise. people come here from all over the world to get rid of big government. i don't understand why we don't do a better job of lay out. i hope to be one of a multile voice to make that argument. it is the only way forward. we'll never be able to raise taxings. you can't generate enough. we need new taxpayers. >> gretchen: we didn't get our message out effectively enough. that is so true. the republicans actually have a legitimate message when it comes to the fact. if we increase taxings democrats have to cut entitlements. somewhere it gets lost in the shuffle. we ard from the president if we communicated better you would like my plan. what about the republicans, do we need a
bill o'reilly talked to marco rubio a star on the republican side. he said 85 billion a year if rates go up to 39 percent. it is nothing but symbolic, listen. >> my parents worked in the service industry and beaut a house. we always had more than we needed thank god and thank this country. it is only going to be possible in the future if we have limited government and free enterprise. people come here from all over the world to get rid of big government. i don't understand why we don't do...
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that suggested he might be looking beyond paul ryan, beyond marco rubio to one of these governors. it's also happening on the democratic side, martin o'malley, one of the candidates who for sure wants to run is having a fund-raiser here in chevy chase, maryland, today. then he's going to be out in los angeles this week talking to big funders. another possible democrat, andrew cuomo, your governor there in new york, to be here in d.c. today talking to new york members and senators. >> never too soon to get started on 2016. mike allen with a look at the "playbook." thanks so much. >> have a great week. >>> coming up next on "morning joe" -- >> here we go. final seconds. luck steps. luck, a little flip, donnie avery, he's in! touchdown! indianapolis has done it! >> that is the rookie, andrew luck, engineering a last-second comeback against the lions. the indianapolis colts continue their let's call it miraculous march toward the playoffs given where they were last season. mike florio, our buddy, takes us through all the nfl action including the quarterback controversy here in new york
that suggested he might be looking beyond paul ryan, beyond marco rubio to one of these governors. it's also happening on the democratic side, martin o'malley, one of the candidates who for sure wants to run is having a fund-raiser here in chevy chase, maryland, today. then he's going to be out in los angeles this week talking to big funders. another possible democrat, andrew cuomo, your governor there in new york, to be here in d.c. today talking to new york members and senators. >>...
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look at marco rubio's speech talking about the american dream beginning with janitors and other kinds of workers. ryan at that same dinner this week talking about needing to alleviate poverty. there is this -- all these cross currents in the republican party, and it comes around the issue of jobs. it comes around the issue of the fiscal cliff talks about what the party wants to be. whether there's going to be a tea party 2 or whether there's something of a vacuum that doesn't get filled with demint leaving the senate. >> all right. david, thank you so much. we'll be watching "meet the press" this sunday as we do every sunday. eugene, thank you as well. your latest column online at washingtonpost.com. >> guard that mustache, gene. >> i'm going to guard it with my life. >> and congressman emanuel cleaver, great to have you on set with us. >>> coming up, nbc chief white house correspondent chuck todd. and later in the show, "the economist" crunched the numbers and came up with the best countries to be born in in 2013. and the united states does not top their list. we'll find out who does
look at marco rubio's speech talking about the american dream beginning with janitors and other kinds of workers. ryan at that same dinner this week talking about needing to alleviate poverty. there is this -- all these cross currents in the republican party, and it comes around the issue of jobs. it comes around the issue of the fiscal cliff talks about what the party wants to be. whether there's going to be a tea party 2 or whether there's something of a vacuum that doesn't get filled with...